Sunday, 24 May 2009

Praetorian Imperial Guard Alternatives

As most visiting this page wil be aware Games Workshops line of Praetorian Imperial Guardsmen ceased production in early 2008 with no signs of this being reiniated. One of the consequences of this has been the already high prices of picking up second hand Guardsmen (because there are VERY few stores which still have any sort of stock left) inflated even more then they already were. While the likes of eBay and Bartertown are still good sources you will, short of finding a real bargain, be paying considerably for your Guardsmen. However there are alternatives even if you dont feel like doing extensive sculpting yourself as a number of suppliers provide bits, or even complete models, suitable for use in conversions. Those I've come across are linked below with a few important points.

If you have any suggestions for other suppliers with suitable ranges that could be included below or have used one of the below ranges and would be interested in doing an objective review of them please contact me at;



Important Notes -
28mm Heroic & True Scale - Games Workshop Miniatures are of a scale often referred too as Heroic, this means that the heads, weapons etc are noticeably larger then they would be on a true scale 28mm model, Heroic and True Scale models often do not blend together well.

Heads

Empress Miniatures - Pith Helmets & Glengarry Caps
Key Points; True Scale 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

MaxMini - Pith Helmets
Key Points; 28mmm Heroic, Resin
AVAILABLE HERE - REVIEW HERE

Ramshakle Games - Pith Helmets with Gas Masks
Key Points; 28mmm (Heroic?), Resin
AVAILABLE HERE - REVIEW HERE

Secret Weapon Miniatures - Pith Helmetted Heads
Key Points; 28mm Heroic Scale, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

Victoria Miniatures - Pith Helmetted Heads
Key Points; Heroic 28mm, White Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

Complete Models

Black Tree Design - British Zulu Wars Troops
Key Points; True Scale 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

Empress Miniatures - British Colonial Troops
Key Points; True Scale 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

Perry Minatures - Sudan British
Key Points; True Scale 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

Wargames Factory - British Firing Line
Key Points; True Scale 28mm, Plastic, Multipart
AVAILABLE HERE

Warlord Games - British Anglo/Zulu Wars Infantry
Key Points; True Scale 28mm, Plastic, Multipart
AVAILABLE HERE

Other Bits & Components

Curious Constructs / Col.Gravis - Cavalry Conversion Kits
Key Points; Heroic 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

Curious Constructs / Col.Gravis - Various Components inc. Torsos
Key Points; Heroic 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

MaxMini - Greatcoat Legs
Key Points; 28mmm Heroic, Resin
AVAILABLE HERE - REVIEW HERE

Victoria Miniatures - Roughriders
Key Points; Heroic 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

Victoria Miniatures - Various Components inc. Arms, Torsos & Legs
Key Points; Heroic 28mm, Metal
AVAILABLE HERE

5 comments:

JG said...

I'd have to recommend those Wargames factory guys. I just started my guard army using them and the results are amazing. They're too small to be used on their own, however, so be prepared to combine them with cadians. The real benefit is that the pith helmets are seperate on the sprew.

Col.Gravis said...

I've heard some positive and alot of negatives about the Wargames Factory plastics, as standalone models they sound good, but the scales are so vastly different that they apparently dont lend well to conversion with GW components. I'd welcome review articles on them especially though as if they are up to the job they'd be excellent.

Robert said...

Gallant Colonel & Intrepid Gentlemen, Greetings.

I have this day just received three boxes of the Wargames Factory plastic British Firing Line models. I reckoned that if swapping the new heads onto Cadian bodies didn't work, I could use the models in Sword and the Flame (painted as Seebatallion).

Now, sitting next to my computer is a spare Cadian model with one of the Wargames Factory heads on it.

I can live with this.

After gluing the helmet onto the head, I held it up to an unhelmeted Cadian Sgt's head and was pleased with the comparison.

There is a slight scale difference, but not as much as I had feared based on reviews at DakkaDakka, Warseer and the like. The box the models came in has a photograph of an assembled and painted British Firing Line soldier on it, and, to MY eyes, the head on the out-of-the-box model looks just a tad large.

In all, for what Wargames Factory charges for these models, I think they're fine for headswaps for those of us who don't have the most rudimentary of sculpting skills. The bodies, arms and rifles are not really compatible with GW nor is the reverse true either.

I'll be a bit heretical by allowing my Praetorians to wear flak armour, but the shoulder pads will likely be shaved off (along with the trouser pockets)and not replaced with epaulettes...I figure someone in the Praetorian High Command got tired of the men not getting an armour save. I'm also considering a Tropic colour scheme of khakis and browns instead of the traditional "redcoat" style. This'll match the jungly-desert Planetary Empires map I'm making for them (reminiscent of the British in India).

In closing, for aspiring Praetorian commanders who want a cost-effective Pith Helmet Head for conversion purposes, I think the Wargames Factory Models will provide adequate head swaps.

Perfect?

No, but close enough. I'll give them two-and-a-half "Huzzah's" out of three.

Yr. Servant
Capt. Bertram Wooster
111th Praetorian Heavy Infantry
"The Lions of Praetoria"

sgt bolt said...

Field report

i have recentley purchased a number of miniatures from redoudt, empress and perry alas all are amzing models with great attention to detail but in no shape or form blendable or useable for gw battles. they are true scale 28mm miniatures and look too ... skinny to work with imperial guard i am awaiting a shipment from wargames and foundry so i'll let you know how i get on

yours sgt bolt
b company 3rd battlion
24 of foot

Wulfthegn said...

These might be of interest:

http://hinterlandminiatures.weebly.com/

Store:

http://hinterlandminiatures.weebly.com/storecart.html